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                                    Origins of The Mandan 
                                         By: Madoc 
                 As a direct lineal descendantof Madoc ab Gwynedd, Princeof Wales
           and alleged  founder of the  Mandan tribe,  I'd like to  shove my  two
           cent's worth in... 
           Madoc (or Madog) was born  about 1150, one of four sons of the King of
           Wales. He and his brothers did not get along at all, and after the 
           King died, Wales was divided 4 ways among his children. Madoc chose 
           not  to rule his domain directly, having developed the wanderlust that
           consumes so many Celts. He was a well-regarded sailor, such that his 
           sea-faring exploits were recorded less than 100 years later by a 
           French historian, and again by Dr. John Dee in the 1500's. 
           Madoc is said to have left Wales with 5  ships, and to have arrived in
           the New World about 1172 or '73. He landed twice, once in Central 
           America, where he is alleged to have been the "God" that the locals 
           later mistook Cortez for. He then backtracked through the Gulf of 
           Mexico  and landed around New Orleans. He packed his men and equipment
           up the Mississippi, finally stopping due to sickness in his men. He 
           and his able-bodied crew floated back downriver and returned to Wales.
           Madoc left Wales again around 1176, and returned to the Mississippi 
           river. He supposedly found that his surviving original crew had 
           intermarried with the local Native American populations, and most 
           chose not to return to Wales. Madoc himself may have  stayed, as there
           is no record of his returning to Wales again. 
           Years  later, Lewis and Clark heard fantastic tales of "white Indians"
           who supposedly built forts, spoke Welsh, and fished from "coracles," 
           which are leather boats totally unlike canoes. They were unable to 
           substantiate those claims, although they found many "light-skinned" 
           Native Americans, some of whom had blue eyes and blond or blondish 
           hair and spoke a mish-mash of Souix and something that resembled Welsh
           in some aspects.  These people claimed, unlike their compatriots, that
           they were descended of a "race of giants" who built their tipis of 
           logs and came from "across the sea" (a sea which  they had never seen,
           by the way) and whose leader (Madoc?) had promised to  return for them
           one day. The local Native Americans whom they lived with supported 
           their claims. 
           The Mandan as a tribe still exist. They speak Souix and live mostly on
           reservation land in Wisconsin and up into Canada. They traditionally 
           build log cabins and fish from leather coracles. 
           The Mandan claim that they were seperated as an independant tribe 
           because of disease and wars with settlers. They have largely become 
           Souix, and the US government lists the Mandan as Souix. 
           My family traces its roots directly to Madoc through Ireland, where 
           his offspring settled after being evicted from Wales by the British. 
           As the King of England said at the time, "They can go to Hell or go to
           Connaught." My father is the direct lineal descendant of the Crown, 
           and I am his first-born (and only) son. My father is the legitimate 
           Prince of Wales, and Charles is a Pretender. 
           AUTHOR(s):       Deacon, Richard,  1911- 
           TITLE(s):        Madoc and the discovery of America;  some new light  
                         on an old controversy  [by] Richard Deacon. 
                            [1st American ed.] 
                            New York,  G. Braziller,  1967 [1966] 
           AUTHOR(s):       Armstrong, Zella. 
           TITLE(s):        Who discovered America?  The amazing story of Madoc.
                            Chattanooga,  Lookout Pub. Co.,  1950. 
           AUTHOR(s):       Burder, George,  1752-1832. 
           TITLE(s):        The Welch Indians;  or, A collection of papers       
                                       Columbus),and whoaresaid nowtoinhabit a   
                                     beautifulcountry onthe westsideof the       
                                 GeorgeBurder. London, PrintedforT. Chapman      
                  [1797] 35 p.  21 cm. 
                          1796, and letters from missionaries and traders. 
           AUTHOR(s):       Pugh, Ellen,  1920- 
           TITLE(s):        Brave his soul;  the story of Prince Madog of Wales  
                           with the assistance of David B. Pugh. 
                            New York,  Dodd, Mead  [1970] 
           Summary:          Discusses the validity of the claims that an obscure
                            Welsh prince landed in Mobile Bay in 1170 and 
           established a settlement that resulted in a tribe of 
           Welsh-speaking Indians. 

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